Unterhaltung mit #deegree
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(14:37:15) copierrj: ??
(14:37:22) ndrs: Torsten is on his way
(14:37:46) tfr [574f5926@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.79.89.38] hat den Raum betreten.
(14:37:53) markusschneider: Hi
(14:38:06) copierrj: hi
(14:38:09) ndrs: hi
(14:38:11) tfr: Hi all
(14:38:17) markusschneider: does anybody know whether johannes will join?
(14:38:29) tfr: No, he will not join
(14:38:37) copierrj: I've to leave at 15:05
(14:38:46) tfr: let's go
(14:39:04) markusschneider: agenda here: http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/TmcMeeting/TmcMeeting20130305
(14:39:19) markusschneider: anything you would like to add?
(14:39:28) ndrs: Pull requests deegree desktop
(14:39:33) copierrj: not for me
(14:39:35) markusschneider: ok
(14:39:58) markusschneider: well, than lets start...
(14:40:13) markusschneider: "Fix vanished deegree-3.2 build job"
(14:40:27) markusschneider: anybody got anyone to blame? ;-)
(14:40:46) markusschneider: deegree-3.2 vanished on jenkins....
(14:40:56) markusschneider: i don't know how that happened
(14:41:17) ndrs: perhaps it vanished when I updated the jenkins
(14:41:23) markusschneider: hmm
(14:41:27) ndrs: it seems to still have a directory there
(14:41:34) ndrs: in the jenkins workspace
(14:41:59) markusschneider: btw: did we assign responsibilty for the build server yet?
(14:42:25) markusschneider: i would suggest to elect a primary maintainer...
(14:42:43) markusschneider: any comments?
(14:43:13) markusschneider: proposal: occam labs performs maintainance of the build jobs on "buildserver.deegree.org"
(14:43:21) copierrj: (I don't know anything about jenkins or build servers in general...)
(14:43:57) markusschneider: torsten, do you read?
(14:44:21) tfr: That's fine with me
(14:44:29) markusschneider: +1
(14:44:35) ndrs: +1
(14:44:48) tfr: Since latlon is maintaining Trac and Nexus we will not maintain Jenkins in addition
(14:45:03) markusschneider: fair enough
(14:45:06) tfr: +1
(14:45:21) copierrj: +1
(14:45:32) markusschneider: what about starting the release job...
(14:46:04) markusschneider: ok
(14:46:06) ndrs: I think one person should remain responsible for the release process
(14:46:19) markusschneider: but occam labs becomes "build job maintainer".
(14:46:23) markusschneider: fine
(14:46:25) markusschneider: next
(14:46:43) markusschneider: deegree3 pull requests
(14:46:55) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/49
(14:46:58) markusschneider: +1
(14:47:01) copierrj: +1
(14:47:07) ndrs: +1
(14:47:16) ndrs: merged.
(14:47:25) markusschneider: sorry
(14:47:27) markusschneider: torsten?
(14:48:17) markusschneider: well, majority was met anyway :-)
(14:48:19) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/50
(14:48:25) markusschneider: +1
(14:48:36) ndrs: +1
(14:48:36) copierrj: +-0
(14:49:14) markusschneider: torsten, do you read?
(14:49:26) tfr: still
(14:49:40) markusschneider: ok
(14:49:43) markusschneider: :-)
(14:49:57) tfr: again, not tests
(14:50:06) tfr: +-0
(14:50:13) ndrs: merged.
(14:50:29) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/52
(14:50:30) markusschneider: +1
(14:50:39) ndrs: +1
(14:50:40) copierrj: +1
(14:51:05) tfr: +1
(14:51:12) ndrs: merged.
(14:51:16) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/53
(14:51:25) markusschneider: +1
(14:51:32) copierrj: +1
(14:51:54) tfr: +1
(14:51:55) ndrs: +1
(14:52:12) ndrs: merged.
(14:52:19) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/54
(14:52:27) ndrs: +1
(14:52:36) tfr: +1
(14:52:44) copierrj: question: is this backward compatible?
(14:52:53) ndrs: nope
(14:52:58) tfr: no, it was a bug
(14:52:59) ndrs: actually, no and yes
(14:53:04) ndrs: no, it was no bug
(14:53:13) ndrs: in the initial version the code worked like now
(14:53:32) ndrs: in between the directory order was reversed for some time
(14:53:49) tfr: well, then call it an enhancement which avoids manual work on the file system level
(14:54:07) ndrs: sorry, tfr, it's not like that
(14:54:17) ndrs: it all depends on how you create your tiles
(14:54:29) markusschneider: it more of "recommended practice"
(14:54:50) copierrj: so this might cause problems for people currently using an older deegree
(14:55:00) markusschneider: but the person creating the tiles has to know the order that deegree uses
(14:55:07) ndrs: anyway, existing workspaces can be adapted by renaming the data directories
(14:55:14) markusschneider: reijer: you can still work around that
(14:55:30) copierrj: I don't have anything in production that uses this
(14:55:33) copierrj: others might
(14:55:51) copierrj: -0.5
(14:55:58) ndrs: true, but it wasn't in any final release yet
(14:56:03) markusschneider: +1
(14:56:11) ndrs: merged.
(14:56:13) tfr: well, perhaps the updated web services handbook will tell how to use, setup and migrate
(14:56:19) copierrj: (who is using non pre versions?)
(14:56:53) ndrs: the handbook contains a note about the new behaviour
(14:56:58) markusschneider: well, it may be a sad truth, but...
(14:57:00) ndrs: see the handbook pull request
(14:57:12) tfr: next, please
(14:57:29) markusschneider: ... people using pre-versions may need to adapt their stuff. that's why we want quicker releases...
(14:57:34) markusschneider: in the future.
(14:57:40) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/55
(14:57:41) copierrj: agreed
(14:57:47) copierrj: +1
(14:57:49) markusschneider: +1
(14:57:54) ndrs: +1
(14:58:19) tfr: +1
(14:58:25) ndrs: merged.
(14:58:27) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/56
(14:58:35) markusschneider: +1
(14:58:48) tfr: +1
(14:58:52) copierrj: +1
(14:58:52) ndrs: +1
(14:59:00) ndrs: merged.
(14:59:03) markusschneider: thanks
(14:59:15) markusschneider: is johannes available for doing the release?
(14:59:39) tfr: when is it scheduled?
(14:59:52) markusschneider: as we agreed
(14:59:53) markusschneider: today
(15:00:00) tfr: not today
(15:00:02) markusschneider: after every tmc merge session
(15:00:16) markusschneider: well, that was the agreement...
(15:00:28) markusschneider: so johannes is unavailable?
(15:00:48) tfr: no, he is not.
(15:01:04) ndrs: http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/TmcMeeting/TmcMeeting20130122
(15:01:04) tfr: Sorry, yes he is unavailable.
(15:01:08) markusschneider: ok
(15:01:24) markusschneider: we can do the build and write the announce mail
(15:01:41) markusschneider: but we cannot edit the web page and perform the other release steps...
(15:02:02) markusschneider: can somebody else do that?
(15:02:24) tfr: not today unfortunately
(15:02:42) markusschneider: well, i suggest to do the release and sent johannes an email with a reminder
(15:02:47) markusschneider: ok?
(15:03:07) ndrs: +1
(15:03:15) tfr: yes, and the other tasks can be done tomorrow
(15:03:28) markusschneider: fine
(15:03:39) markusschneider: we forgot one pull: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/pull/57
(15:04:07) markusschneider: gone for good
(15:04:08) markusschneider: +1
(15:04:11) copierrj: 0
(15:04:13) ndrs: +1
(15:04:14) markusschneider: the module, i mean
(15:04:58) copierrj: guys, I've to leave.
(15:05:04) tfr: 0
(15:05:06) ndrs: ok, see you
(15:05:08) copierrj: cu
(15:05:09) markusschneider: ok. see you
(15:05:11) copierrj hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]).
(15:05:12) ndrs: merged.
(15:05:35) markusschneider: now for something completely different...
(15:05:46) markusschneider: https://github.com/deegree/deegree2-desktop/pulls
(15:06:03) markusschneider: +0
(15:06:05) ndrs: +1
(15:07:31) markusschneider: torsten?
(15:07:31) ndrs: tfr: this should be most interesting for you...
(15:08:03) tfr: wait
(15:12:48) ndrs: how long?
(15:12:52) tfr: 2 min
(15:14:49) tfr: back
(15:15:22) ndrs: so, what about the pull request?
(15:15:46) tfr: +1
(15:15:58) ndrs: merged.
(15:16:08) markusschneider: Thanks
(15:16:09) markusschneider: http://wald.intevation.org/tracker/?atid=303&group_id=27&func=browse
(15:16:17) markusschneider: Any updates?
(15:16:32) ndrs: what about this: http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/TmcMeeting/TmcMeeting20130122#PSC_questions_on_JIRA
(15:16:50) ndrs: as far as I know, they're still waiting for an answer...
(15:17:03) tfr: no, still no progress.
(15:17:19) markusschneider: Anything we can close?
(15:17:35) markusschneider: 6391?
(15:17:53) ndrs: I suppose it can be closed
(15:17:54) ndrs: +1
(15:17:57) markusschneider: i guess we clarified that in the mean time
(15:17:58) markusschneider: +1
(15:18:19) tfr: +1
(15:19:06) markusschneider: what about 6393?
(15:19:31) markusschneider: i remember that we did reach consensus here. am i right?
(15:19:59) markusschneider: api stability for 4.0
(15:20:51) markusschneider: configuration stability for 3.x (with minor exceptions)
(15:20:59) markusschneider: can we close the ticket?
(15:21:04) ndrs: +1
(15:21:13) markusschneider: +1
(15:21:29) markusschneider: (of course this was only the short form) :-)
(15:22:09) markusschneider: torsten?
(15:22:34) markusschneider: if you don't have the time to focus on the meeting, please let us know :-(
(15:22:51) tfr: configuration stability for 3.2 and onwards can be added to the wiki page as a goal
(15:23:50) tfr: can't find it there
(15:24:06) markusschneider: "For the deegree 3.x series, the aim is to provide a stable configuration format."
(15:24:38) markusschneider: but we never found the time to do the planned configuration consolidation review...
(15:24:52) markusschneider: i suggest to continue the discussion at the community space then...
(15:24:58) ndrs: +1
(15:25:01) tfr: yes
(15:25:32) markusschneider: i think that's it. any other updates?
(15:25:44) ndrs: nope
(15:25:58) markusschneider: next meeting is next week!?
(15:25:59) tfr: nothing to report
(15:26:18) markusschneider: we need to build 3.2-rc2 / 3.2-final...
(15:26:40) ndrs: probably a good idea to have more frequent but quick meetings until the release
(15:26:49) ndrs: so +1 for next week
(15:27:15) tfr: next week 30 min?
(15:27:20) tfr: or 1 hour?
(15:27:32) markusschneider: 30 min is better
(15:27:36) tfr: good
(15:27:41) tfr: next week 30 min
(15:27:43) tfr: +1
(15:27:48) markusschneider: +1
(15:27:48) ndrs: +1
(15:28:04) markusschneider: thanks. see you next week
(15:28:09) ndrs: ok, bye
(15:28:14) tfr: cheers till next week
(15:28:20) tfr hat den Raum verlassen.